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		<title>Comment on WARNING: inbound connection timed out (ORA-3136) by MG</title>
		<link>http://monishsb.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/ora-3136/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>MG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monish, 
That was very helpful man. 
Thanks.
MG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monish,<br />
That was very helpful man.<br />
Thanks.<br />
MG.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 1Z0-042 Dump by Ivan Pinto</title>
		<link>http://monishsb.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/1z0-042_dump/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Pinto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 06:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Monish,

  Really appreciate this! Thanls for sharing this and wishing you all the best

Rgs,
Ivan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Monish,</p>
<p>  Really appreciate this! Thanls for sharing this and wishing you all the best</p>
<p>Rgs,<br />
Ivan</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unlock record of a Oracle table by Riki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Useful stuff!
Thanks :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Useful stuff!<br />
Thanks <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Startup &amp; Shutdown by DBA Joseph in Atlanta</title>
		<link>http://monishsb.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/startup-shutdown/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>DBA Joseph in Atlanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good summary... but I have an extra few related questions:  

If you have already executed ...
SQL&gt; Shutdown normal;

which will wait forever, until users finish and disconnect,
then how do you change/switch the style of shutdown to use a
SQL&gt; Shutdown immediate
instead ?? They&#039;re BOTH doing a shutdown, and it&#039;s just a matter of whether the database waits or not... and as a DBA, I might want to speed up the
process of doing a shutdown, without doing something drastic, like a SQL&gt; Shutdown abort;

I&#039;m thinking of a syntax more like:
SQL&gt; alter system shutdown type=immediate;
 . . . (which is not real syntax, just example )
I know that I could forcably kill every database session, and let the database shutdown after all user connections are gone; but I&#039;d rather see a cleaner syntax.


Now, if that is possible, here&#039;s a slightly harder one:
You are on a large production server, with several client &amp; user apps, plus hundereds of users, when somebody issues a SQL&gt; Shutdown Immediate;
Oracle starts ending transactions, and performing rollbacks, but ti will be several minutes before the
DB-sessions are terminated, and the database is actually shut down.  Since I&#039;m a DBA, I can still connect to the database with sqlplus.  In the next 2 minutes, how do I issue a command to CANCEL an Oracle shutdown that&#039;s already in progress, and tell the database to Stay UP, returning to normal &quot;open&quot; production status?? (so most of the applications don&#039;t go down, &amp; 75% of the users aren&#039;t even affected??)

There *is* a command of:
SQL&gt; Startup Force;
But inside Oracle, it actually performs a faster
::: Shutdown Abort   followed by a 
::: Startup 

So, while the database does come up in 2 minutes, the Apps+users are cut off from the database, and have to re-connnect, or even re-start dozens of applicationsl

For this, I just want to have Oracle *stop* what it&#039;s doing, return to open/un-restricted status, and stay in regular production.  I&#039;m thinking some other
command like ALTER SYSTEM, force open cancel shutdown;  
Alter system disable restricted session;
( or something like that )

The desired effect iw that SGA stays in memory, most users/apps only pause for a bit, but never disconnect, the database is quickly back on-line, and running productively.

So -- if you fined these, let me know.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good summary&#8230; but I have an extra few related questions:  </p>
<p>If you have already executed &#8230;<br />
SQL&gt; Shutdown normal;</p>
<p>which will wait forever, until users finish and disconnect,<br />
then how do you change/switch the style of shutdown to use a<br />
SQL&gt; Shutdown immediate<br />
instead ?? They&#8217;re BOTH doing a shutdown, and it&#8217;s just a matter of whether the database waits or not&#8230; and as a DBA, I might want to speed up the<br />
process of doing a shutdown, without doing something drastic, like a SQL&gt; Shutdown abort;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking of a syntax more like:<br />
SQL&gt; alter system shutdown type=immediate;<br />
 . . . (which is not real syntax, just example )<br />
I know that I could forcably kill every database session, and let the database shutdown after all user connections are gone; but I&#8217;d rather see a cleaner syntax.</p>
<p>Now, if that is possible, here&#8217;s a slightly harder one:<br />
You are on a large production server, with several client &amp; user apps, plus hundereds of users, when somebody issues a SQL&gt; Shutdown Immediate;<br />
Oracle starts ending transactions, and performing rollbacks, but ti will be several minutes before the<br />
DB-sessions are terminated, and the database is actually shut down.  Since I&#8217;m a DBA, I can still connect to the database with sqlplus.  In the next 2 minutes, how do I issue a command to CANCEL an Oracle shutdown that&#8217;s already in progress, and tell the database to Stay UP, returning to normal &#8220;open&#8221; production status?? (so most of the applications don&#8217;t go down, &amp; 75% of the users aren&#8217;t even affected??)</p>
<p>There *is* a command of:<br />
SQL&gt; Startup Force;<br />
But inside Oracle, it actually performs a faster<br />
::: Shutdown Abort   followed by a<br />
::: Startup </p>
<p>So, while the database does come up in 2 minutes, the Apps+users are cut off from the database, and have to re-connnect, or even re-start dozens of applicationsl</p>
<p>For this, I just want to have Oracle *stop* what it&#8217;s doing, return to open/un-restricted status, and stay in regular production.  I&#8217;m thinking some other<br />
command like ALTER SYSTEM, force open cancel shutdown;<br />
Alter system disable restricted session;<br />
( or something like that )</p>
<p>The desired effect iw that SGA stays in memory, most users/apps only pause for a bit, but never disconnect, the database is quickly back on-line, and running productively.</p>
<p>So &#8212; if you fined these, let me know.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 1Z0-042 Dump by pradeep</title>
		<link>http://monishsb.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/1z0-042_dump/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>pradeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is there  a seperate paper for sql..for those atteneding OCA...
do v need to get that first?
plz gimme clear idea and  respective latest avilable dumps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is there  a seperate paper for sql..for those atteneding OCA&#8230;<br />
do v need to get that first?<br />
plz gimme clear idea and  respective latest avilable dumps</p>
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		<title>Comment on Configuring the Flash Recovery Area &amp; Archivelog Mode by Horst</title>
		<link>http://monishsb.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/em-flash-recovery-area-archivelog-mode/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Horst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What for a great BLOG.

greatings.

Best regards

Horst</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What for a great BLOG.</p>
<p>greatings.</p>
<p>Best regards</p>
<p>Horst</p>
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		<title>Comment on 1Z0-042 Dump by arun</title>
		<link>http://monishsb.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/1z0-042_dump/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks</description>
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		<title>Comment on Startup &amp; Shutdown by Srk Raju</title>
		<link>http://monishsb.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/startup-shutdown/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Srk Raju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points . Really nice for better understanding with simple words. keep it up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points . Really nice for better understanding with simple words. keep it up</p>
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